Callers discussing how to lay out the ID document before it is typed out. Patrick: It does not take you too long to type it all out. Yes. OK? Basically if you cannot pretty much cut-and-paste what I send to you, then type it all out. There is not too much to lay out on the damn thing. OK? You guys make a mountain out of a molehill; if nothing else, go down to some damn person and have them do it for you. This is probably the two most important documents you need to have. OK? You have to have your proof of insurance—your proof of public law insurance and proof of public law identification, then basically you can stand immune to a lot of this stuff out here that is going on. Now one of the key things you have to get into your mind that you are an American public citizen; you are not a United States citizen; you are not a US national citizen. You are an American public citizen. Abraham Lincoln tried to make that very explicit in the Expatriation Act. Then you stand as an Article 4 officer in the public government. Then you have all the powers of Article 4 and all the powers of the Bills of Rights because those are Public Laws. The Amendments are the only Public Laws that affect We the American Public People, along with the Constitution and basically the 10 Commandments, which everybody is supposed to be obligated to, since this was supposed to be a Christian country. Now, as that is the case, I don’t know how many of you people have been watching what has been going on in the election for the last couple of weeks with the FBI and the US Attorney’s office. They both work under the Executive Branch, Article 2 Executive Branch. The FBI could not have the US Attorney’s office convene a grand jury. The US Attorney’s office had to do it on their own, but the FBI could not force them into convening a grand jury, but as an Article 4 public citizen, you CAN invoke the US Attorney to invoke a grand jury. It takes 2 to file a complaint and have the US Attorney open a grand jury investigation. All of our actions out here both at the state level and at the federal level: we do not go to the clerk of the court. We go to the US Attorney or to the state Attorney General’s office or to the county prosecuting attorney who is working for the Attorney General’s office of the state. We submit our documents into that US Attorney or that prosecuting attorney—article 2—he is a government employee, we come in as the public citizen. He is the one that has to file the court case. Then basically it goes into the court then the court has to assign—especially when we are coming in under our eminent domain against our securities—the court is going to have to establish a defense attorney, a private security defense attorney, an Article 2 government private security defense attorney and that is normally going to be the US BK Trustee. This is where everybody has been getting it all wrong, thinking that they know how to go into court. Too many people have listened to the patriot community out here and keep going down the same blind-ass road that all these damn other guys keep going down and keep screwing up! When something ain’t working, find out why it is not working. Yeah, you want to put a charge in against Hillary? You need to have your two documents done being recognized in the public as an American public citizen, then you can turn around and file a charge into the US Attorney’s office to open the grand jury investigation against her. How did Donald Trump get all of his money? Well I think that he just might have known how to cash in his private securities. His CoLB, his SS Account… Since we know he did not do any military, he did not have a DD214, and he probably never registered any of his properties in with the state. This is all about securities; I posted up on the group site there the Securities Act of 1933; I don’t know how many of you people ever read it! I know most of you don’t listen to this call and understand what the hell I say, from half the calls that I get, I know people don’t understand what I am saying. It ain’t that hard. You make up the document and you send it in to the US Attorney. He has to take it to the clerk of the court and open up the court case. Several of us went to the BK court years ago, well I was sitting there all by myself; I needed to have the US Attorney sitting beside me and then I needed to have the US Trustee sitting at the other table so that basically we could basically broker the damn securities! They knew that I was the eagle in the shield in the Justice Department shield—that I stood over them. Those judges are nothing but administrators, security administrators. Traffic tickets: you have to turn around and you give them to the county attorney along with your Driver’s License and say “this needs to be brokered”, but “here, I don’t have a driver’s license, here is my American citizen public law identification”, “but I want this traffic ticket brokered against this driver’s license security.” It is a collateral trust certificate; certificate and license are basically considered just about the same; they are still a security. That is all that there is to it. I got a bunch of IRS letters the other day—7 of them. I did not open up any of them, but I got to looking at them, and in the little window there basically trying to find out what was the difference between each one of them, well there was a number there, a sequence number, and they were all basically the next one in line. I said “well hell, this is easy”; I will address these seven items using those numbers, put an SF1416 in for the $300 private usage penalty that I am going to claim against the collateral—the payment bond, and then basically I will fill out a SF1418 open-ended to go along with what is inside the envelopes as IRS bills for the US Trustee to set off! Let them take care of them! They are the brokers. We are the master. Same thing goes for a mortgage: you turn it over to the county prosecutor, the state AG’s office or the US Attorney’s office. But you have to get these two documents done as a proof of public law debt insurance security document and then your proof of public law identification. You are the creator: start fucking creating. OK. Does anybody have any other questions here? Caller: I am Tommy, I am a new guy. You need to go back and listen to the calls and read the documents. I have been on a 4-6 week lag; I just got on this call because I could not figure out the technical stuff to get on it and just what you were saying is right what I am dealing with, with a foreclosure, I have a hearing next week in SC and I am in PA. I have already done my non-ucc mailing to myself registered. I was a few weeks behind... I have all your recent calls now. Patrick: You need to do these last two documents, you need to get established as an American public citizen. See, you are standing out there as a United States citizen and basically that is a private citizen, like all these guys that have been running around out here in the patriot community wanting to be sovereignties; they are forcing idiots! Yeah, and basically it is the emperor who has no clothes! Basically if you are a sovereign out there, you have no protections per the public laws, you lost the protections of the constitution, you are an Indian! You have to be an American public citizen. Caller: Let me ask you if I can undo something that I did; I filed the motion to dismiss the case over a void assignment, but he still will have a hearing anyway over the motion to dismiss, so I have not even answered to this lawsuit. Patrick: You have to turn around and basically take that case and hand it over to the prosecutor because that is a security and basically you have to come in under your right of eminent domain as you are in the public—and see eminent domain always goes from the public to the private, against the private. Caller: Prosecutor? All I have is a judge. Patrick: Well you need to get the county attorney involved into the thing. See, you tried to file the court case yourself. Caller: No, I got sued. Yes, you need to turn it over to the county attorney; he is the public prosecuting attorney; you cannot prosecute it but he can—in the public. Caller: How do I get the prosecuting attorney in there? Patrick: You’ve got to take that mortgage and turn it over to the county attorney. Yeah, you surrender the security to that county attorney. If it is a state bank, then basically that county or state attorney is the one that has to prosecute that public security. Caller: County or state AG? Patrick: The county attorney normally works for the state AG’s office. Just like the US Attorney at the federal district court basically works for the US AG in Washington DC. Caller: I don’t ever want to walk into a courtroom again, ever. Patrick: You can, but you walk in with the county attorney on your side; he is working for you now! Caller: When I turn this over to him, I am thinking there will not be a motion to dismiss next week. Patrick: No, it will be a motion to settle and broker that security. (All administratively, right?) Yes. They have to break that security down into the public bond—er, the payment bond and the performance bond. Yeah, you give that county attorney or whoever the SF1414, 1416, 1418, and the SF30 that go along with that security and say “broker this”. I am the American public citizen, I am not the surety under this contract, and basically per Article 4, I want my slave—my indentured surety/slave—brought home. Caller: The security in this case is their charge against me? Patrick: Is their mortgage! Or their certificate of title to the property if they are going after you for property taxes. Yeah (with a mortgage), it is with the bank. Caller: This is going on for over 5 years now; bank of America already dismissed their case against me and then they sold their bad debt at the end of the year to this BS trust. Patrick: This 3rd party debt collector which really you don’t have a contract with, but the county attorney or basically the state AG’s office can bring fraud charges against this other outfit. I was doing that through CPA against this attorney because she is a debt collector, I said “validate the debt”. Patrick: You can’t do it! That is what I am telling you; you let your fucking employee do it! Caller: I will bring him up to speed on the whole deal. Patrick: OK, but you need to get these two documents done: proof of public law debt insurance sureties under private accounts and the other one is the proof of public law identification. You make up your own identification and then you get those publicly notarized, now you are in the public world as an American public citizen; under article 4 of the American constitution, you are the highest level of government. OK, anybody else? Tom: You can ask your questions on the skype group during the day, too. Caller: I want to get rid of my car notes, I just got a car and this car is not worth what I thought it was supposed to be worth, I want to pay it off and get rid of it, how do I go about doing that? Patrick: Well you can take it into the county attorney or to the state AG’s office and say that you want that loan security brokered, either basically the payment is going to come out of the payment bond to settle the whole thing—the credits that you put into the payment bond—or it is going to come out of the performance bond. Get it into the county attorney, but you have to have your two American citizen documents publicly notarized so that they know who you are; you don’t need any commercial insurance out here, you’ve already got insurance already. Caller: Do I need the forms, the SF30? Patrick: Yes you will need those forms too. Caller: Are these forms the correct ones? 1414,1416,1418,SF30? Patrick: Yes. Work it out on the skype group or the WeThePeople yahoo group and text messaging. OK? Caller: One more thing, what about the bill of exchange, will I need to do that? Patrick: No, you do not need to do the bill of exchange, you just get that to that US attorney and basically then he has to file it into a court case, basically you can take this into BK; send it into the US attorney’s office, and basically almost everything is in BK out here, and then basically that BK judge, when the US Attorney files the court case, the BK judge is going to have to bring in the US BK trustee to be the defense attorney for the private surety security. OK? Anybody else? Caller: I have a question regarding a water bill. I have a huge $6k water bill; for the form SF30, on the 14 description of amendment modification, what do I write there? Patrick: I don’t know, I am not looking at one. Put down basically what is going on! Tell them to set it off per the security. You’ve got the account number, you’ve got the surety’s name on the water bill, and give them an SF1418. Caller: I know that part. On the top part of SF30, number 8, “amendment of solicitation”, I will mark that, not “modification of contract”, correct? Patrick: Anybody else? Caller: Asks about county attorney, article 3 court. Patrick: Well it will be whatever the state court goes into; whatever the state AG can take that into a state court action. Caller: OK, so that will be more of a state court action? Patrick: It is still essentially an article 3 court but it is an article 3 state court. Caller: And what happens if they refuse to do anything? Patrick: We will turn around and file federal charges against them for not fucking complying with the federal public laws. Caller: One more question about the SF30, I was working on one today and I still have the US BK Trustee in there when in the administered by box, is that correct, Patrick? Patrick: I don’t know. I am not thinking along that line so basically you are going to have to try and figure that one out yourself. Caller: OK, I still have him there because we had him there when we went into BK court so I figure he is still there. Caller: I spoke with you yesterday after I had those documents that you just spoke about, this proof of insurance and public ID; I got them notarized and took them to the recorder of deeds office and this morning I faxed them over to the chief justice here in Chicago; I spoke with the secretary of the judge on Monday and they definitely have my package so hopefully within a couple of days… Patrick: You are going to have to get it into the US Attorney’s office; the judge will not be able to do anything. He has got to have the US Attorney file the court case; the judge cannot file the court case. OK? It has got to be the US Attorney that does it. OK. Anybody else? Watch what goes on out here; like all this shit that went on for the election here; there was one hell of a lot of good information about how the government works if people opened their eyes to see what was going on. Yeah you don’t need to get wrapped up in all the sex scandals and the murders and everything else that Hillary is doing; we all know that shit. But you need to know how you can get back at her when you become an American public citizen, and then you can file the treason charges or have an open investigation of her by having a grand jury convened, but see the FBI could not be the ones to issue the grand jury if the damn Attorney General’s office is not going to comply, but you as a private American citizen and you get two together—then basically you can bring the charge to open up a grand jury investigation. But see they did not tell you all of that and yet it is written into the Constitution. OK. Anybody else have any other stuff? Tom: The two is in the constitution specifically for treason but you could use it in other cases too? Patrick: Yes, that is a treasonable action. You can’t just go in and charge treason, you have to have a grand jury investigation to bring about the charges of treason. OK? Tom: Thank you for this information about taking ??? to the US Attorney and we don’t have to worry about filing cases. Yeah, you don’t file the case; you give it to the US attorney or the state attorney or the county attorney. You order your public employee to do the fucking dirty work for you. You cannot prosecute it. Caller: So when sending in a payment to pay off a car, is there a need to send in a copy of the BC or some type of check behind those SF forms to make that transaction complete? This is for a loan on a car? Student loan, loan on a car… You can put it in against your SS account. How did you get that loan document? You have a copy of that student loan? I have a copy of the car loan. Is this a student car loan or a student education loan? (Car loan). OK, you have the loan contract; that is the security; that loan is a security and you are going to have that brokered; it’s got a payment and a performance bond associated. When you gave your signature, you authorized the credits to be transferred to that loan. The bank did not loan you fuck-all. You loaned yourself the shit but they put it under a security and then they have been making a profit off of you and then also off of you because you are fucking dumb Democrat, listening to Hillary and Obama too fucking much, getting under Obamacare. Why would Trump be able to say that basically he could turn around and do away with Obamacare? Because he knows a little about these fucking securities. How do you think he got his start? Because he cashed in his Birth Certificate more than likely. OK? OK, have a good night.