Chris has worked with Patrick for 15 years.
Over a period of time we grew away from each other mostly because I found evidence other than what he felt he wanted to pursue. And so I think that part of what Tom wanted me to do is to give you introductory information to you folks as to what it is that I have found and what actually does work and you may at the end of some of my comments find for yourself there are different paths of going about skinning a cat. In this particular area, there was a systemic problem with presenting yourself in their system, they have you basically under the wardship under a military rank as a private they have placed you where you cannot be heard or acknowledged, I call it the civil law system. It is a huge body of info that I have accumulated; everything that I have done is actually certified. NONE of the stuff that I have came to a conclusion is NOT backed by facts, and this stuff does work, the problem with most people: they are in the wrong j/d for anything to happen, for instance my presentation to patrick years ago is: you cannot get anything done in the civil law system, that is their sandbox where they actually own you as a public employee of the lowest common rank, they have you being exposed to T&Cs of all the laws, as a corporation, and not being paid for any of this. The other catch-22 is they have put you in a situation where you are not aware of what they are doing to you, they never exposed this for a reason, they wanted easy pickings: when you have a DL, BC, SS account or any other titles that they may put liens against where once you put your good name in to any one of these various items they have basically put a claim under the j/d of the martial/civil law system that they set up in 1861, from that onslaught to current times they have nearly everything that would get you free blocked out of any education system so therefore you only have one choice: go get a passport. You have to prove that you are a civilian or a citizen. They have this whole thing wrapped up. In my research there are several j/ds that do not include the civil law system. This is a great big bright bulb moment for me bc/ under the int'l human rights bill it says you have a right to choice of law or the rule of law or how any issue about you is adjudicated, that in particular struck me as kind of funny that under this democratic system where it is a top-down kind-of "legislation", they are actually telling you that you are subject to this stuff, and when I started realizing that "how could I been subject to this stuff? I have never been asked if I wanted to participate with this stuff", it came very very quickly to me that I am a slave by definition, they have put me in a situation to where there is no easy way out. Because I backed away from working with Patrick on his documents--I was not trying to argue with this stuff, it is just factual stuff that I found: there is no law that says you cannot emancipate out of their system, the fact is they have to leave every door open for you to either expatriate and/or emancipate out from underneath their civil law system. It is based off of military and it is based off of merit. This is their system and when they assign you right from the governor's office under the reconstruction act of 1868 under the military operation of a state, the governor can be no less than a brigadier general, he has the abilities as to pardon people and whatnot, they are the sole controller of the civil law system in each of the states, that means that if you address them on these particular issues that you want to emancipate or you want to get out from underneath the control of the civil law system, you most certainly can do so. The other one that I found that is very important for you to understand is under the passport the department of state, there are a selected handful of officers or diplomat council and/or ambassadors that also are not bound in any capacity to the civil law system. So I got to scratching my head about this stuff and realized OMG they have hidden the possibilities of changing your status, your classification, as to get out from underneath their control and actually start self-governing yourself, and what I have done is I have detailed the facts that actually came to a conclusion that there is nothing in the civil law system that states that you have to be bound to the civil law system which includes being an unpaid subject to all the statutes codes and regulations of the state and all the municipals is that once you have given them notification that you are no longer in any capacity either by presumption/assumption and by any "not with full disclosure" documents that says that you are under their control. Once you bail from all of that, you are actually more free than you ever have been in your life. They have been running this system for over 100 years, that means that we were born into a civil law slave system for their benfit. The way they've got this thing handled is that there is a contract between the DMV, the vital statistics, and what they do they are owned and occupied by higher-up beings, and they have a contract, agency-contract with the comptroller of the state which is the holder of titles, statuses, and classifications. What they have is a whole roster of titles tying you into this military merit system that they set up that they control through these agencies. They could not do this on their own. If you go back through the history of the SoS in the United States, you will find that at one time under the Republic form of gov't, that the SoS was the registry of all deeds and titles. What they have done is they delegated those authorities to these agencies such as the DMV of what basically had became kind of like its own island with its own authority which has recently in CA it has shown some abuse, there has been some corrections that what they were doing is they were overstepping their authority--but going back to the original idea that all the rights, titles, and interests are harbored between the Treasury of the state, the comptroller of the state, and the AG's office. The AG's office happens to be the administration of the martial law system and on top of it they are the custodian of all of your records so anytime you speed, get a traffic record, anything you do in your life is actually harbored inside that AG's office, they are the custodians of all of your records at which that point depending on who is fleecing you for the day (e.g. traffic ticket) is that once it goes into the DA's office at the county it actually gets referred up to the AG's office as to what profile, what status and what classification you've got and what they are going to do to fleece you of the funds that they are withdrawing from the accounts up at the DTC. To take it to that extent for a second, the DTC actually is the keeper and the custodian that has a nexus relationship between the conservatorship and the receivership of the BK of 1933 and it stands bw/ the US Treasury and the FRB. That relationship has been breached by people that got wise and realized that they could cut out the middleman, cut out the agencies, franchises, instrumentalities, banks, and go directly to the DTCC to be able to get hands-on the cash that they need to survive in their life. This is something that I knew years ago that I tried to explain to Patrick: there is a system that you can follow and pursue as to knock these things out, get them complete, and get to the place where you can have full access to these accounts that are sitting up there, bypassing the counties, agencies, franchise, instrumentalities, and banks by being your own private banker. This is the most critical thing that you have to stop and think about: if you had unlimited amounts of money, and you were able to get your status and classification documents settled, in the county, in the state, going up to the US Treasury and becoming a private banker, now you have completed a loop for yourself that and start navigating your life. But the thing you have to understand: if you are going to start something like this, you need to start from the beginning. You can't just  haphazardly go and God bless Patrick and stuff like that but I am going to say something here that he could not acknowledge what are the foundational paperwork that would have gotten you all out of the system and owned these avatar accounts that the gov't set up for your beneficial right, with one exception, that you have to show competency to the US Treas. Failing to Show competency to the US Treas: Being the private banker on behalf of your estate, they are not going to release any of this stuff to you, and that was the biggest problem I felt with Patrick: he did not do the foundational paperwork, the foundational paperwork is established in your county in probate; once you correct your status and classification it shows a distinct difference between what the gov't created which is your public avatars and who YOU are. Now from that point of view when you get all that sorted out, anybody that has a contract like a ticket, you have to ask that: are you serving this as a damage and injury under common law or equity that I have caused someone else an injury or damage (of some property) or are you doing a commercial venture hoping that I am stupid enough as to go ahead and seal this commercial transaction out of my SS account at the DTCC. So when you get enough information and you have all your documents and the proper methods set up, you have the abilities to challenge them under a creditor's claim in probate as to where you get the authority over this private individual and his estate as to bring a commercial contract that without his consent and under threats of guns that you were forcing that person as to make a payment or consent to a withdrawal from the SS account under the public liability. So the things that I wanted to make sure that everybody understood on this call is that there is other things that need to be looked at here and I am getting ready to start a university and part of the reason why I am saving the paperwork and the processes and the facts and the forms and stuff like that is for me to put a teacher's manual together for the university to teach new upcoming teachers that are competent to teach them how to teach others how to do these processes. This is not like flying by the night, one set of documents one day another day another set of documents.  What I am doing is starting from ground zero and working the foundation and working every part all the way up to the US Treasury as to put the final paperwork in there as to inform them that on such and such a date I filed papers with the Department of State, they are supposed to or should have corrected the status of classification and yes indeed that these avatar accounts that have been enumerated by the US and the state of CA as a public obligation and/or some form of a contract for the participating of them owning a split title is forbidden for their use any further from this point on and when you communicate that to the US Treasury with your competency, you know what you are doing, is that the state of CA is forbidden from doing any commercial transaction out of these accounts at that point without your written consent and it cannot be done by threat of arms and/or coercion. So now what you've got is you've got every one of these people in the state noticed that any time that they approach you and they commercially trespass it becomes a perfected preemptive tort lien against them. They accept the T&Cs by the notice and the recordation that if you want to trespass, this is what it is going to cost you: $500,000 in gold or silver and that is payable due immediately upon any of your officers that decide that they would like to write you a citation. So you've got the handle on all of these events. The problem that they have is you are doing it out of probate, probate is for estate hodlers, principals, principal heirs, beneficiaries, and bloodlines. They cannot go in there like a swashbuckling hero as to rob your account without being challenged. The problem that they've got is they go into probate and they do a falsified claim. If you go up under 31USC3729 and 3730, you will find that it is a 30 year prison sentence for them to falsify any kind of a claim underneath probate. So you've got these guys, they know what this stuff is. Don't ever mistake that: just bc/ they are not communicating and educating about what it is to get out of their system does not mean they don't know it. As soon as you mention probate to a judge, that judge stands down, he realizes then that if he trespasses trasverse a civil law matter which has to be first adjudicated under the rule of equity which is the first rule of law is that equity has to be adjudicated first, that is where you run that sucker right into probate, that judge is cease and decist any further actions and let the first rule action to be adjudicated, if there is any residue left, that is referred to the civil law system. But see when you get it over there into probate what happens: these guys run away because they know when they get caught for a falsified claim for a commercial transaction, they are going to jail, there is no doubt about it. And so I think I will cut it off there, I may take a couple of questions. I wanted to make sure people understood that there is a distinct, there is an absolute pattern, a procedure and a filing that gets you to where I am at and Patrick did not disclose this stuff to you and as much as I wanted to work with Patrick on this stuff, you know it was very difficult for him to settle down to send the latest stuff out so that he could present it to all you folks. I will stop there, if somebody has any questions please go ahead and ask me now.
Caller wants to get the information on the internet and research more the information that he has just put out which is really good stuff.
Caller relates the blind man and the elephant, identification, going into court and standing your ground.
Once you file your probate paperwork, your foundational paperwork, you CC a copy to the civil law side of the superior court and now what they are now starting to realize is that you busted them, their games and their schemes and civil law system no longer stand. 
Caller: the game is up when you know all of what to say and how to say it and how to do it and go into court properly.
Either the head of jury and grand jury, they all have SS numbers. I came nunc pro tunc... Whatever the vehicle is, you have to own it.
Caller wants Chris to give his information and go over questions and make use of the time we have.
Cathy says she has studied Ken Cousins, Gemstone University how do you differ?
I am glad you brought that up, I was going to mention that, I actually am the clerk of their court and I solely believe in what they are doing over there for about 96% of the people and the reason why is this is kind of my analogy that there may be 4% of the people that are qualified to be part of the teacher's group and I am not going to be dealing with hands-on filling paperwork for other individuals. There is a drawback. Gemstone university I absolutely bless, they are going to be a participating institution or university, Gemstone University--when we get the campus they are going to have full access for free to participate because what it does is it takes the burden off of my shoulders to process people, get them in the know and to get the forms and the procedures and stuff taken care of. Now one of the drawbacks that I find about that is you are kind of like part of another government, if you will, just follow me I am not trying to knock Gemstone. But What I found out: there may be a time where you will have to walk away from Gemstone bc/ you got competent enough to be able to handle your own affairs and that would be the time that you would probably graduate basically to where you can apply for the teacher's program--that's my baby, and to be able also to also incorporate the court system, jural societies, common law courts, oversight committees and humanitarian causes for the counties, in other words help people with their systemic problems: homeless and/or poverty. So my little nest-egg will not be co-mixed with Gemstone. I absolutely support it because Ken has spent years on perfecting that process and you know I've got a couple little things about it that I don't care about, but there is nothing else on the planet that is anything like that, you cannot find this kind of stuff anywhere else.
Gemstone University is the name of the website.
Chris does not have a website set up, they have thepeoplesuniversity.org domain name. We will have a voting rank, in other words every county will have its own elections or proxies/petitions and the issues statewide will also be on the internet and we are going to support that, and support a law library and we are going to incorporate all of Patrick's information and incorporate every teacher, every guru that has ever put research material it is going to be on our database that when you go into the peoples university into the library section you will have full access to everything in there for your research. In the jural society we will be training folks as to what is the proper conduct of your county, to have oversight committees and jural societies that will be effective to the board of supervisors of the county as a proxy and the elected will of the people of the county. That is kind of like my baby. I wanted Ken Cousins to participate but he was more than willing to go on the call to discuss how were things laid out and how beautiful it really is with their ecclesiastical court system of which I told you that I was the clerk of the court for that, I am fully qualified to be a judge and I probably will become a judge with the section that I set up bc/ I opened up 2 churches, one: church of the continental congregation, and when I went back in the history of our country is the continental congregation was what they started with prior to forming the DoI so I made a church out of it and the other one was the church of original j/d of the plenary people which will be used for different things but in order for me to set this stuff up I had to do corporate soles, offshore, international, it had to be totally sovereign unto itself, and in the midst of doing this for the peoples university, I got graduated, I virtually got graduated with this stuff, there is nothing I doubt that I am talking about that I have factual information about that I cannot support. I support everything I found and there is a proper process for the bulk of people if you want to do this stuff on your own your foundational status and classification correction papers is where you would start, they are all over the internet. What you do is you file that stuff in probate, now you are under a j/d that is hands-off, the civil law system cannot trespass the probate bc/ these are estate an estate wealth and heirs and beneficiaries, that's that adjudication, all your commercial crap that they keep dumping on you for them cashing out on your SS up there at the DTCC when they go up there and they tag that you have no control over that. What I am showing is when you have your foundational stuff, you get notification to the proper people and you default them, and now it becomes a judgment, by the time you get to the other end that paperwork is supported up underneath the federal registry, I found the info that says that your decrees and your deeds can be filed on the federal registry and I found that through the US Treasury. So when you actually get this stuff filed in the federal registry about who is who, that you are the power of attorney or the personal representative on your own estate, they have no recourse but to give you your assets that are sitting there, that is what they are calling an issuance of a license authorized to do the private banking on behalf of your estate. This is all factual stuff, you can find this on their site right now. 
Caller: You said the main paperwork to do to get it into the courts in probate was the status and classification.
Yes. See, the thing is there is not one public official that does not realize that when you have your foundational paperwork filed in probate, that is hands-off to them. That is a big warning, it is a caveat warning to them that you better be careful when you are coming at this estate bc/ I am the captain of this estate and if I have never invited you in for contractual relationships with me, you are trespassing. They know this. That is how powerful probate is.
Caller: Where are the probate courts in the county or do you have to go federal?
There is a section in the federal but I would avoid that because you are not versed enough, I could take issues up there but I would do administrative processes with the labor commissioner first bc/ I never signed any document saying that I am a public officer or employee, they came up with that that is a presumption and all of my life they have been tagging me with that but every county has a probate division, in some of the states that I have found in the past you may have to go one or two counties down the way but you could also design your paperwork under probate as chancery which they are also supposed to support but because of their failing and wishing that you never got a hold of this info, because of that they hide it or don't even support it. It is slim pickings to try to find research material that is factual material that you could use in order to separate yourself from their obligations and their forced duties to their system. It is slim pickings, hats off, the way they organized this country and the merit system it is all commercial and they did a damn good job. If I was not so much for people's liberties I would join them because that is how good they did this stuff.
Caller: You said we had to go to the labor department also you said we had to go into this... court, now do we have to make an appointment to go in before the judge to have him to sign off on our paperwork?
The reason why I mentioned the department of labor is because this is a labor dispute: you have never been given a paycheck. You have never sworn into that office, yet they hold that over you that you are subject to 29 separate jurisdictional laws in the state of CA that is the whole body of law that they have created that they are holding your feet to the fire that you have to know that you have the performance as to be a law abiding citizen under the civil law system they set up. To me that is a labor dispute what is up underneath the labor dispute is the whistleblowers program, it also includes the private AG program, so when you've got a labor dispute: I have never signed up to this stuff, why are you sitting there saying this DL makes me subject to all these different laws, I have no clue why you are doing that, by what delegated authority are you doing this by? When you take to the admin. law judge up underneath the DoL when you take that up to them, that is an administrative presentation of redress and grievances. They will cash you out if they come to a determination, they will cash you out without going through a court so you have to understand your j/ds you have to understand what they are authorized to do and what is your capacity of your presentations to this stuff. I work right now non-adversarial. I acknowledge the fact that they have these public officers, these public employees but because of my bearing witness that these things are not me, they created all of these accounts, they created all of these avatar accounts, and yes indeed fraud is being perpetrated daily based off of what they created they are trying to bind to me. It releases me from the surety, the liabilities of what they created bc/ I never had a contract that I signed. Now that becomes an adversarial, if you have an adversarial thing you take it to probate and challenge them under adversarial proceeding. So what happens is you've got them by the kahuna, they have no choice but to cooperate with you because they have been running roughshod, shooting you like fish in a barrel for your whole life. Never once telling about this stuff. It can be very serious, that is why the peaceful warrior is the best way of going about this. If you have issues that need to be adversarially addressed, you can do that as an adversarial proceeding: where do you get your authority, where have you got any kind of a contract or an oath that I am a participating party and surety and liable to all of this crap that you are dumping on me? Show me, if you cannot show me you better release me, Same thing with your DL, they say on the back of your DL this is not going to be misconstrued as any other ??? this is only for ID for driver and operators, that is what they say on the back of the CA DL (small print). The thing is when they assume and presume that you are a licensed banker that is in