Lawful Money A4V

Lawful Money A4V

This is for those who'd like to experiment with new forms of Accepted for Value. First, here's an explanation of 12 USC 411 that I like. I just had to switch over the legal and equitable title, since he had it wrong:

"What is the purpose of redemption of your estate out of the usufructuary trust created by the Bankruptcy Act of 1933 if not to take equitable title to your estate, ie, to remove it from the bankruptcy trust created for the benefit of the Secretary of the Treasury (who is not a US govt official), as trustee? The banks set up this debt money trap to control the assets of the citizens, who stupidly allowed themselves to be trapped into a presumptive contract with the Federal Reserve, which contract makes them liable for income taxes as an excise tax on the amount of Federal Reserve private credit used (dealing in securities of the Fed is the excised act).

By accepting the trust relationship with the Sec of the Treasury, citizens give up equitable title to their estate and accept legal title in its stead. But by demanding lawful money, you break the contract with the Fed concerning debt money: your demand rebuts the presumption that you wish to deal in Fed securities, ie, FRN's. This demand is also an appearance, so it also rebuts the presumption that you are dead, a necessary condition for the cestui que vie trust to exist. This collapses the trust, and the res reverts to the rightful owner. By these steps, your property is now no longer 'subject to the jurisdiction of the United States,' making the rest of 12USC95a(2) irrelevant. You have a perfect right to own your name, and to own your estate. Why do you refuse to acknowledge this right?"

As you may already know, the best-known A4V systems, such as the ones from Doug Riddle and Winston Shrout, work by DISCHARGE, which is TAXABLE and requires 1040V or S tax form. But when it comes to lawful money, there should be no discharge, but SET OFF instead, because lawful money PAYS OFF debts, not just discharges them. Here's a couple of Accepted for Value systems based on LM that I've found. The PDF is from David merrill and is probably from one of his members. It's very simple, just a demand for non-negotiable FRNs and signed by:......., without recourse . It also comes with a proof showing that the balance is zero.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/949/dischargedcouponexample.pdf

The second one is reported by a member of another group. It's based on one making NO claim of ownership/title to ANYTHING in the FIRST MIDDLE LAST; pursuant to 12USC95a(2), ALL reversionary interest in the NAME is assigned, conveyed, transferred to and for the account of the United States.
Here's a quote:

"I and others have been having great success when receiving an account statement indicating an amount due. With this verbiage placed on the statement and mailed back, I haven't heard another peep;
This name and account number are property of the UNITED STATES
Please forward to the owner in care of the Treasury of the United States

(Sign) Authorized Representative (Date)

The success hasn't just been with one or two instances but many."

Some say that Lawful Money Demand (12 USC 411) is only 1/3 of the remedy - Full Discharge (12 USC 95a(2)) is second 1/3 - and Claim for Harm by a man in his court of record at a public court building using his record declared at the county recorderis the last 1/3. More info on this is available at iuvdeposit.wordpress.com.

This basically is a THIRD A4V process based on lawful money demand, although untested:

http://iuvdeposit.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/indorsed-bill-remedy/

And the pdf showing the A4V verbiage:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8BdR0w2oZY_MVZsQ0hrWE44LTg/edit